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Dude, it’s all good. I mean, that’s just what it’s like at art school. I’ve said that same stuff before… I think I actually USED the exact word “stifling”. It’s all about the attitude you have, it doesn’t GOTTA BE THAT WAY. But you’ll probably feel that way sometimes.
And dude, sometimes you get kick ass professors that just make sense (those are the ones you stay in for). And sometimes you get professors that tell you how much you suck… and you either take or leave what they say.
YOU JUST GOT TO WANT IT ENOUGH. Then it’ll be worth it.
i figure if you got the gumption to make art school work for you then you can probably just skip the massive debt and self teach with the aid of a few hard knocks.
I got a degree in creative writing, but also two other degrees, so university worked out for me. I assure you the students are mostly the same, even if it’s not “real art.” Massive debt, sure, why not. It doesn’t bother me. Just less money every month until I’m like 50. I would eat ramen and kraft macaroni every day for the rest of my life if that’s what I had to do to go to school.
There’s advantages to going to school and advantages to skipping it. You have to decide what’s right for you… take advice from others, but understand they’re different people. Do what tastes right. And don’t worry if you go and your fellow students say it’s a wash… again, they aren’t you. The only opinion about this that matters is your own. (and your parents’, if they’re helping you pay, but, you know.)
🙂 thanks
i know its all about dedication and what not, but its just my ingrained paranoia about how hard it is going to be to sustain a living in the near future on artists’ pay…..i thank my economist parent for that.
I went for Drama, and for the most part I felt my education was useless, but there certainly were good teachers who push you to do better, and even factoring all the shitty teachers, you’re at least practicing, learning technique and history, and exposing yourself to critique. It is very difficult to actively teach art, but the best way to learn something is by doing, and college, at the very least, forces you to produce, and in that manner you learn to express your internal desires and thoughts through your craft.
That being said, fuck school, super-glad I graduated, and now I’m in a band and don’t even act more than, like, once a year, and in some random production my friends are always throwing together.
Maybe you can’t teach art, but you sure as hell can teach the technique necessary to make it. ((full disclosure- I loved art school, and also work with metal, which involves a lot of technique))
I’ve met plenty of these folks in my department. Which is amazing to me ’cause it’s graphic design. We can quite certainly be objective about what you’re doing right and wrong as whether anyone understands what you’re trying to communicate. Yet some folks will defend to the death their choice to create work that no one understands other than themselves.
Everyone feels bossed around at some point in art school, or extremely lost, or both. My take from graduating from the Illustration Dept. is that you need to learn all of the potential schools of ‘rules’, so that you can then build your own upon them.
Sometimes it just means learning to rules to then break them again–point being that you are more knowledgeable as to WHY you broke the rules. You also now have ammunition from your years of schooling to argue why your style is what it is, and why you chose to break away from the ‘norms’ and ‘rules’ that are traditionally taught.
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she has just vocalized all my fears of going to art school………… 🙁
Dude, it’s all good. I mean, that’s just what it’s like at art school. I’ve said that same stuff before… I think I actually USED the exact word “stifling”. It’s all about the attitude you have, it doesn’t GOTTA BE THAT WAY. But you’ll probably feel that way sometimes.
And dude, sometimes you get kick ass professors that just make sense (those are the ones you stay in for). And sometimes you get professors that tell you how much you suck… and you either take or leave what they say.
YOU JUST GOT TO WANT IT ENOUGH. Then it’ll be worth it.
i figure if you got the gumption to make art school work for you then you can probably just skip the massive debt and self teach with the aid of a few hard knocks.
I got a degree in creative writing, but also two other degrees, so university worked out for me. I assure you the students are mostly the same, even if it’s not “real art.” Massive debt, sure, why not. It doesn’t bother me. Just less money every month until I’m like 50. I would eat ramen and kraft macaroni every day for the rest of my life if that’s what I had to do to go to school.
There’s advantages to going to school and advantages to skipping it. You have to decide what’s right for you… take advice from others, but understand they’re different people. Do what tastes right. And don’t worry if you go and your fellow students say it’s a wash… again, they aren’t you. The only opinion about this that matters is your own. (and your parents’, if they’re helping you pay, but, you know.)
🙂 thanks
i know its all about dedication and what not, but its just my ingrained paranoia about how hard it is going to be to sustain a living in the near future on artists’ pay…..i thank my economist parent for that.
Oh god, it’s THAT PERSON
“The anatomy isn’t wrong! It’s just my style!”
I went for Drama, and for the most part I felt my education was useless, but there certainly were good teachers who push you to do better, and even factoring all the shitty teachers, you’re at least practicing, learning technique and history, and exposing yourself to critique. It is very difficult to actively teach art, but the best way to learn something is by doing, and college, at the very least, forces you to produce, and in that manner you learn to express your internal desires and thoughts through your craft.
That being said, fuck school, super-glad I graduated, and now I’m in a band and don’t even act more than, like, once a year, and in some random production my friends are always throwing together.
Maybe you can’t teach art, but you sure as hell can teach the technique necessary to make it. ((full disclosure- I loved art school, and also work with metal, which involves a lot of technique))
I’ve met plenty of these folks in my department. Which is amazing to me ’cause it’s graphic design. We can quite certainly be objective about what you’re doing right and wrong as whether anyone understands what you’re trying to communicate. Yet some folks will defend to the death their choice to create work that no one understands other than themselves.
Everyone feels bossed around at some point in art school, or extremely lost, or both. My take from graduating from the Illustration Dept. is that you need to learn all of the potential schools of ‘rules’, so that you can then build your own upon them.
Sometimes it just means learning to rules to then break them again–point being that you are more knowledgeable as to WHY you broke the rules. You also now have ammunition from your years of schooling to argue why your style is what it is, and why you chose to break away from the ‘norms’ and ‘rules’ that are traditionally taught.